A late fall/early winter overnighter was forecasted with single-digit temperatures. There are two large loops sewn onto the footbox for hanging, and a number of small loops along the sides so you could secure a pad underneath the bag. It should be versatile enough for morning runs and other aerobic activities. The real question, then, “Should everyone buy this bag?”. Trips with days in the 40s or 50s F and nights in the 20s or 30s F would be fine with the Cosmic Down 20, and frankly those are conditions most backpackers are more likely to encounter. College students or Scouts might want to take a look at the Cosmic Down 20. The point, of course, is that to determine if a manufacturer's rating is accurate, it wouldn't be appropriate to use a lower R-value pad than they use for testing. Also note that there have been some great threads correlating sleeping pad R-value to temperature & sleeping bag rating. All that said, my goal was to emphasize real-world, practical findings… more so "Does it work as advertised" than "What do the specs say," ya know? The draft collar was just plain weird, and didn't really function very well, so I experienced drafts around my neck, which was remedied when I switched from a hat to a balaclava. Our Cosmic Sleeping Bag was already giving you a workhorse for the price of a pony. EDIT to include that we were both on mats/pads that provided a sufficient R value. This will definitely go on the list for the Scout troop. I am exactly the guy you are talking about: Just getting into hiking, camping, kayaking, etc. This bag is 2X the cost as the "Kelty Cosmic 20 Sleeping Bag Synthetic: 20F Down - Women's" When I read the tech details I can not tell why this one is more expensive. The regular one weighs 2 pounds 4 ounces with a fill weight … Thanks for your responses! Note the hood and shoulder region “tummy tuck” on the CD 20; I wish there were more down in this region. Something for everyone: Basic, Premium, and Unlimited Membership options available. To compare the loft of the bags, a useful calculation is to multiply the fill rating by the fill amount: WM = 850 cubic inches per ounce x 16 ounces = 13,600 cubic inches of down I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw it. For such a cheap bag, could the shell material really be light enough to offset the extra weight of 550 fill? The Cosmic Down 20 is for those seeking a serviceable sleeping bag that gets pretty small, is reasonably light, and will do the trick for most three-season conditions. I bought a $100 down bag made by Marmot that is made specifically for Dick's Sporting Goods. Receive new Members-only content, gain access to 2,000+ articles in the archives, and become a part of the most passionate community of backpacking experts in the world. 0 reviews. I’ve found that using pads with barely adequate insulation can dramatically decrease the performance of a bag, therefore I used pads with R-values ranging from 5 to 8 (yeah, I know the 8 is high, but I have the pad, it’s comfy, and I love it) for all my field evaluations. © Copyright 2001-2020 BEARTOOTH MEDIA GROUP, INC. | U.S. Library of Congress Serial Registration ISSN 1537-0364 Free Shipping offer is valid in the US lower 48 states only, and is not available for PO Boxes or Military The three-quarter-length zipper has proven to be a true three-quarter-length zipper… it seems like many companies’ “three-quarter zips” are closer to half zips to me. Kelty Cosmic 20 Weight and Size. Promotions have no cash value. Unless otherwise specified, product prices already reflect discounts. Dick's without an proper caps is profanity here! (Regular Size) 2 lbs. Thanks Brad for the reveiw. The 50 denier polyester taffeta shell fabric is not inspiring. Is the Kelty Cosmic Down 20 a true bargain, or should backpackers on a budget save for a more expensive bag? One is the alpine 40, a strictly summer bag. / 1.3 kg ; Stuffed Size: 16" x 9.5" / 41 x 24 cm; Long. Now that you’ve had the full tour, let’s take a look at some real-world performance. Things sure go fast in the Gear Swap! First, it comes with a substantial stuff sack, and you could get rid of an ounce by using an ultralight sack. Fill: 600-fill down. In fact, I can't think of another down bag in this price range, especially at this weight. There is nothing outwardly impressive about this bag in appearance, but it works. I put in a few summer trips with it and a fall trip which was still rather comfortable – in the 30s. The two pads I used for testing were the Thermarest Women's Trail Pro (R-5.1) & Exped DownMat 9 (R-8). Offer cannot be sold or otherwise bartered. While I … The material is pretty rugged, overkill in my opinion, but at least the down won't poke through like it can with polyester taffeta. I suggest that maybe the pad was not really good enough for the conditions. Why would I suggest this? Given that the two bags compared have a difference of 3" in shoulder girth, and have different-weight shells, the actual "loft ratio," if we were to call it that, would be more in favor of the Western bag. 6.6 oz. building up my gear slowly, buying a couple items a year. It’s spare but also extremely light weight. If you aren't already a member, you can sign up with this link https://www.theclymb.com/invite-from/mountainwalker (I get a $10 credit to apply to gear when a friend I've invited makes a purchase, at no cost to you. kelty cosmic down 20 sleeping bag size long, brand new with tags 180.00. Kelty upgraded their liner materials for a softer hand, and the bag feels lofty and cozy. or Best Offer. ShortTemp Rating: 20° / -7°CEN Comfort Limit: 19° F / -7° CFits to: 5 ft 6 in / 167 cmTotal weight: 2 lb 3.9 oz / 1.019 kgFill weight: 16.26 oz. And hey, the good news is that it DOES work pretty much as advertised. Kelty Cosmic Down 20 Right Hand. i dont know why i wouldnt just pick up a cats meow for $120-$140 or so, its roughly a similar weight … and its synthetic to boot …, glad to see BPL looking at value though …, "i dont know why i wouldnt just pick up a cats meow for $120-$140 or so". They both say that they have "600 fill power dry down" same weight … dual-slider, locking zipper with anti-snag design, Keep the cold out and the heat in with draft collar & comfort hood, Stuff it when you’re on the go-sack included, PFC-Free DWR coating is better for you and the environment. And the author was still cold even with a second and better bag over the top. Excellent review, thank you. All together you get a 20 degree bag that will keep you comfortable three seasons a year. Subscribe here. For those interested in such things, Casey's calculation on loft can be a good starting point… However, for the numbers to be accurate that calculation assumes that the amount of down is going into the same-cut sleeping bag shell & that the shell fabric is the same weight. Weight: 2.9 oz. Now to make a an overbag for winter for it. Temperature rating: 20°F Weight: 2 lbs. I'll stick with down Its nice to see a reveiw on a cheaper product but it would be nice to see us get a standard r-value pad based on temp. Now if we could just find a $150, sub 3-pound, double wall tent ;). The Kelty Cosmic Down 20 is considered the classic entry level down backpacking sleeping bag. We are stoked on the price and quality of this item, and we're now recommending it to other Scouts. This sleeping bag by Kelty Cosmic is designed to keep you warm and dry in temperatures down to 20 degrees F. 500 fill DriDown and full draft tube collar ensure heat will remain sealed in tight. Rated at 15 and weighs 2 lb 8 oz. “This thing might actually be legitimate.” I shook my head. I guess you could say I went into this evaluation with high hopes and low expectations. Consumer must pay applicable sales tax. Limit one discount code per order. Home › Forums › Kelty Cosmic Down 20 Sleeping Bag Review. I see that on campmor and rei that there's a different version of the bag in a neon green. First thing first: It’s a $100.00 DOWN sleeping bag. An additional layer would help. http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?bo=watch&forum_thread_id=39138. Offer may not be combined with any other sale, promotion, discount, code, coupon and/or offer. It was clear that all variables were unchanged except for the daytime/nighttime temperature swing. Wow….a $100 Marmot bag? “That actually feels about right.” Out of the box and onto the scale: my size regular Cosmic Down 20 weighs 2 pounds 9.6 ounces, 1.6 ounces over spec, but hey, that’s still pretty good. The one I got was the alpine adventurer 15. ... Kelty Cosmic – Women’s +20 Degree Bag Review By Matt K. • Camp. We were quite warm (I was too warm) with base layers, fleece top and balaclava, a hand warmer in the foot box for good measure. With a 600-fill-power, the Kelty Cosmic 20 won’t be the most insulated bag on the list. I also noted that the material doesn't breathe as well as most higher priced bags, and condensation was a little more than I like. Is the blue one featured here the older version of the bag? The skeptic in my head immediately said “Yeah, it’ll weigh five pounds and be good for 60 F (16 C).” But the sleeping bag only weighs two and a half pounds, and it’s been EN tested for 20 F / -7 C. Well, that clinched my curiosity. There is a passive top draft collar in the Cosmic Down 20, an insulated tube that hangs from the top of the bag to block air movement. However, if I were looking for a decent three-season bag and typical temperature swing, this bag could be a good choice. Get our Handbook - the resource you need to make intelligent decisions about gear, safety, comfort, and pack weight. Guaranteed by Mon, Jul 20. Whether your an … My husband and I recently tested the 9-foot Kelty Noah’s Tarp (which is also available in 12-, 16-, and 20-foot options). I had imagined wrestling a behemoth into a stuff sack, but it easily stuffed into a 10 liter dry sack. We think the latest version of the Cosmic is quite comfortable. 12 oz. A hundred bucks for a down bag?! 3 oz. Viewing 25 posts - 1 through 25 (of 26 total), Forums are supported by our merchant partners (. It does not have the distinctly reassuring appearance of, say, Western Mountaineering bags and their slightly overstuffed baffles. I was a bit perplexed. Then I realized that what had changed wasn’t so much the low temperature, but the high temperature of the day. ISO Temp Rating (Comfort): 32° / 0°C; ISO Temp Rating (Limit): 22° / -6°C; Fits to: 6’ 6" / 198 cm; Length: 84” / 213 cm; Shoulder Width: 32" / 81 cm; Fill Weight: 33 oz / .95 kg; Total Weight: … A night in the hammock (with a DownMat under me) down to the mid twenties found me, yet again, warm and toasty. Big Agnes Zirkel SL 20-Degree sleeping bag has a down filling which is water repellant and will keep you very warm and cozy. Just thought I would point out that Campmor has these in regular length for $80 right now: http://www.campmor.com/kelty-cosmic-20-degree-sleeping-bag-regular-1.shtml?source=CI&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=41952. I’m not gonna lie: It isn’t a sexy bag. Thanks for the great article, very timely find for a friend who is just getting into backpacking. Who should buy the Cosmic Down 20? Just got this on sale from Campmor a few days ago, and thought I would share my experience with it. Nice article. You can also earn the same credit any time you invite a friend and they make their first purchase). The loft of the sleeping bag is… not bad. wish I could find one of those. Sleep snug and sound on subfreezing fall nights in the men's Kelty Cosmic 20 sleeping bag. 18.2 ounces (516 grams) of that weight is the down filling. Just ordered one. Hope it becomes a trend. The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a comfortable sleeping bag that provides reasonable warmth for most of the year-round … The zipper is sturdy, but not as smooth and it caught on one of the tie-down straps a couple of times. If you want and expect greatness from your equipment, this isn’t your bag. I can think of a few reasons. It's fairly lightweight, serviceable, and the drawbacks are not that serious, especially if you are prepared for them and plan accordingly, (like making sure to use a balaclava and a base top zipped up all the way to compensate for the hood). I’ve never found the need to do that, but they’re there if you’re so inclined. Fill Weight 39 oz / 1.09 kg 44 oz / 1.23 kg 46 oz / 1.29 kg Total Weight 3 lb 14 oz / 1.74 kg 4 lb 7 oz / 1.99 kg 4 lb 12 oz / 2.13 kg Length 78 in / 198 cm 84 in / 213 cm The box that arrived at my doorstep was surprisingly small and light. True to its name, the Kelty Cosmic 20 Sleeping Bag loves being out under the stars. Thank you for the review and specifically for using English and metric units. Stay super warm at night. The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a 3-season sleeping bag with DriDown™ to defend against moisture and dry quickly when wet. Although I was game to experiment and had gained healthy respect for the Cosmic Down 20, I took along a 0 F / -18 C bag as a backup. The Kelty Cosmic 20 Degree sleeping bag is ideal for 3-season backpacking and camping. My wife got me the XP because I told her I wanted that one, then changed my mind, but she had already ordered it. If someone wants to get into backpacking, but doesn’t want to make a large equipment investment, this bag could be just the ticket. I tend to sleep warm, and I was just slightly chilled at 30 degrees with mid weight base layers, and a balaclava. The Kelty cosmic down 20 is regarded as one of the best 3 season sleeping bags around and for a very affordable price compared to other models, no wonder people are raving about it. Not yet rated. This shows the WM has 1.24 times the loft of the Kelty. (Regular Size) Average Weight … Kelty Cosmic 20 Sleeping Bag. $180.00 + $14.00 shipping Lol. I picked up one of these (they were called the Kelty Lite Trekker 20* then) last summer for about $80 at Target and have used it on several trips with nights as cold as 17 (I did bring a fleece liner for that night though). Just used part of my REI dividend to buy a long. However, if you’re shopping on a budget, the Kelty Cosmic 20 … Water-resistant down insulation and an array of features make this sleeping bag a great combination of value … Download the Backpacking Light Handbook to help you make intelligent decisions about gear, skills, ultralight philosophy, and reducing your pack weight. It's certainly an excellent value, and anyone on a budget should seriously consider it. That's $30 less than what campmor wanted. The night I slept cold had been in the mid twenties all day and dropped even lower that night. The hood has a reasonable amount of depth and shape, and has been cut to allow a bit of an insulated ruff around the top of the opening. Because on previous nights when it was cold and the bag sufficed, the ground had been a lot warmer to start with, from the warm daytimes. Kelty Cosmic Down 20 Marmot Helium Down Nemo Disco 15 Therm-a-Rest Questar 20; Average Weight: 2 lb. If someone’s new to backpacking and trying to put together their whole kit, this sleeping bag is a good bargain. Cosmic 20 Synthetic Kelty Cosmic 0 Synthetic Kelty Tuck 20 Kelty Mistral 0 Kelty Mistral 20 Temperature Rating (F): 20 0 20 0 20 Insulation: Cirroloft Synthetic Cirroloft Synthetic Thermapro Synthetic Cloudloft … The reasonable weight is also much appreciated given the tradeoff in money typically means more pounds. Offers only apply to the United States unless otherwise noted. Price $170 at Amazon. If you’re counting ounces, you could save three-quarters of a pound by going to an 850-fill bag. In this overview of the Cosmic Down 20, you can clearly see the over-stuffed nature of some baffles… and the average to under-filled look of a few other baffles. My previous experiences with the bag had all been during warm days, with highs perhaps in the forties and bottoming out in the twenties in the middle of the night. It has served me well on several summer trips and is also rated at 20F. Any reason for the difference in price besides a few ounces of difference in weight … I got another on sale at Target for $60 and my girlfriend and I each used these down to the low 20's this February. It's a little tight in the stomach/hip area, but some of my other bags have this same issue. Find out what gear our guides recommend if you want lightweight gear that is durable and versatile. I haven't handled the bag up close, but at this price it's very tempting, even if not your primary bag. Membership Sales & Support: 406-640-HIKE (406-640-4453) |, http://www.campmor.com/kelty-cosmic-20-degree-sleeping-bag-regular-1.shtml?source=CI&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=41952, https://www.theclymb.com/invite-from/mountainwalker, http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?bo=watch&forum_thread_id=39138, Our Lightweight Gear Recommendations for REI Members, Backpacking Courses, Webinars & Other Events. In this one: Our Verdict. It doesn't compress as well as some of my other bags, and I chalk this up to the substantial material used. What was the pad, and could we get a repeat test with a warmer pad? “Nah, it won’t loft for beans.”. Temperature Rating; 20°F. / .86 kg; Total Weight: 2 lb. Night falls, but the loft of the bag is relatively inspiring. At first I dismissed it as a fluke, perhaps a hydration problem I wasn’t aware of, maybe a slight cold, or a light dinner… but all factors struck me as being completely normal. Discount codes are not valid on prior purchases, cannot be used after their expiration dates, and do not apply to taxes, shipping and processing charges. But thanks to refinements like our NEW soft-as-silk nylon taffeta fabric and a handy stash pocket for your headlamp/chapstick/actual stash, you’ll be daydreaming about more QT in the outdoors. Get the best deals on Kelty Green External Frame Pack Hiking Backpacks when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com. BTW i really like the lower cost reviews $100 was all i had for a bag and i ended up find this one onsale for $50. is the down ethical? ie not live plucked? Ive had two with different insulations after reading the reveiws in backpacker years back they were initially fairly warm but lost loft and warmth fast although as I mentioned in another thread maybe if I had been gentler stuffing they might have lasted longer. Throw it in your pack and you have an extra layer when you need it. Good article. There are two at Dick's. The Cosmic Down 20 uses a three-quarter-length zipper, but it’s a three-quarter-length zipper that I’ve found eminently functional. Maybe when I have loads of cash hanging around I'll buy something betterlighter but for the budget minded person this bag is ideal. The skeptic in my head immediately said “Yeah, it’ll weigh five pounds and be good for 60 F (16 C).” But the sleeping bag only weighs two and a half pounds, and it’s been EN tested for 20 F / -7 C. Well, that clinched my curiosity. There are definitely some thinner spots in loft, particularly on the bottom of the bag, but overall I’m pretty pleased. I got one of these to try out last summer for $90 from Target. I am on the lookout for a bag/quilt that is lighter, however. It was only cold on the night after a really cold day. “Huh,” I thought. Its fill weight ranges from 18.2 to 33.3 ounces depending on the style purchased. As I waited for what I was sure would be an overweight package, I psyched myself up for some very cold nights. Next up after warmth is weight and size. Broomfield, CO 80021, International Customers: We Are Currently Shipping to USA Only, Soft, butter-like, but durable 20D Nylon taffeta shell, 50D Polyester taffeta liner that’s like satin sheets on your skin, 60 in. First thing first: It’s a $100.00 DOWN sleeping bag. Maybe it looks a little lumpy? I think, though, that I'll continue to save up for a Montbell spiral down sleeping bag – I thrash around a lot when I sleep and I find regular (i.e., non-stretchy) bags to be too confining and claustrophobic. I'll be pointing people at this story — thanks for making it publicly accessible. Other restrictions may apply. For its weight, the Kelty Cosmic 20 is surprisingly light at just 2 pounds 6.6 ounces (1.093 kilos) for the regular version. A few comments about the discussion… Field testing a sleeping bag for relative/comparable warmth is an inherently subjective undertaking, so I eliminated as many variables as possible. I'm glad this piqued some interest, & hope it helps out more people. Big Agnes Zirkel SL 20-Degree. The bag I have (and yes it is the blue one) doesn't seem to loft as well as the one pictured in this article, but it was still fairly warm. The author/Backpacking Light has no obligation to review this product to the manufacturer under the terms of this agreement. So why was the bag cold on one night? tax. That night only dropped to about 15 F / -9 C, but I woke up perhaps five hours into the night, feeling particularly cold. Although I normally roll over with the bag (kind of wearing it as I roll over to sleep on my side), I found myself turning inside the Cosmic Down 20 to keep the bottom surface down. 6 oz. So a Kelty Cosmic Down 20* F bag costs $80 and the cheapest I can find a Light Year 20*F is around $160. … The bag should really have some more down in that area, or use an additional baffle. most trips. 0 … Despite temps bottoming out in the low twenties, I slept warm and cozy for that weekend and the next. It compares to the much more expensive marmot sawtooth. Note the passive top collar and draft collar of the Cosmic Down 20. Whether there’s sun, rain, or snow outside your backpacking tent, you can be confident you’ll stay warm and dry in the Kelty Cosmic Down 20 … Is the Kelty Cosmic Down 20 a true bargain, or should backpackers on a budget save for a more expensive bag? You can also get a slightly different perspective on loft here. The zipper draft tube is surprisingly well filled, and the zipper runs freely. Just for grins, a comparison shot of the Cosmic Down 20 alongside a Western Mountaineering Ultralite. 13 oz. Returns of any portion of the purchase will require equal forfeiture of offer or amount equal to offer. Does the lumpy appearance belie the bag’s performance? (Regular Size) 2 lbs. If you want a spare bag, or even if you’ll be spending more time afield, this would be a durable option for the same price as value-priced synthetic bags. Anyone on a limited budget who’s in the market for a good all ‘round sleeping bag. The R-8 pad, sufficient for subzero *F temperatures, was the pad I used on the cold-sleeping night in the teens. The bag comes in two sizes: regular and long. Kelty = 550 cubic inches per ounce x 20 ounces = 11,000 cubic inches of down. Disclosure: The manufacturer provided this product to the author and/or Backpacking Light at no charge, and it is owned by the author/BPL. We desperately needed to lighten our 67lb. On Campmor – The old version (blue, $79.98) seems to be an ounce heavier, has 550-fill duck down, is 2 inches longer and has box-baffle construction. It looks like a really nice bag for the price. $169.95 $127.46 Excl. It wasn’t until that morning when I got up and moved around for awhile that I really warmed up. We think this bag would be comfortable for ladies up t… The hood is a bit large, and it took quite some futzing to get it cinched down appropriately, with the draw cord system causing a bit of frustration. (Regular Size) 2 lbs. I’m accustomed to sleeping bags more in the price range of $400, and while the idea of saving $300 was awesome, I didn’t really think the Cosmic Down 20 would keep me warm. With the Cosmic, Kelty … Kelty Cosmic 20. Note that when I say “bargain,” I don’t mean cheap… I mean a good value. The forecast for an upcoming weekend trip was for lows in the teens; I considered bringing a different sleeping bag, but decided to just bring an extra down layer and warmer pants to complement the Cosmic Down 20 if needed. Does the bag do what it’s supposed to do? TheClymb by the way has this bag on sale for only $50 right now. It's not a bad bag for the money. 1 oz. I see the bag working particularly well for those who would benefit from other gear upgrades… perhaps the $300 “savings” of the Cosmic D could be put toward a new backpack or tent that would save a few pounds. The newer version (green, $99.98)has 550-fill power down (duck or goose not specified), and slant baffle construction. the higher cost items. 8 oz. While realizing that some people on BPL use low-rated R-value sleeping pads, for example, I used the same pads I always do. Huh! If I had used a lower-rated pad, I wouldn't have had a good comparative baseline. I didn’t want to start from scratch warming up the zero degree bag, so I pulled it over me quilt-style and hunkered down for the rest of the night. 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