After reading reviews, we found the Cosmic in "short" which fits to 5'4" and weight 2lb.3oz. I gotta say, the shell doesn’t look too bad under flash light. This will definitely go on the list for the Scout troop. Then I realized that what had changed wasn’t so much the low temperature, but the high temperature of the day. The two pads I used for testing were the Thermarest Women's Trail Pro (R-5.1) & Exped DownMat 9 (R-8). True to its name, the Kelty Cosmic 20 Sleeping Bag loves being out under the stars. The R-8 pad, sufficient for subzero *F temperatures, was the pad I used on the cold-sleeping night in the teens. This bag is 2X the cost as the "Kelty Cosmic 20 Sleeping Bag Synthetic: 20F Down - Women's" When I read the tech details I can not tell why this one is more expensive. It won't work for everyone, but it's an exceptional value for the money. In fact, I can't think of another down bag in this price range, especially at this weight. In order to properly assess the canopy right out of the box, we set it up in our backyard, … dual-slider, locking zipper with anti-snag design, Keep the cold out and the heat in with draft collar & comfort hood, Stuff it when you’re on the go-sack included, PFC-Free DWR coating is better for you and the environment. / 1.211 kgStuffed size: 8 x 16.5 in / 20.5 x 42 cm, Insulation:600 fill power DriDown™Shell material:20D Nylon Taffeta Shell With PFC-Free DWRLiner material:50D Polyester Taffeta Liner, Environmental & health friendly PFC-Free DWR and 600 fill Dridown, Stuffed size: 8 x 15.5 in / 20.5 x 39.5 cm, 1 International Court, I'll stick with down Its nice to see a reveiw on a cheaper product but it would be nice to see us get a standard r-value pad based on temp. The loft of the sleeping bag is… not bad. http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?bo=watch&forum_thread_id=39138. I’m not a huge fan of equipment surprises when I’m in the backcountry, so I first test almost all new equipment in the backyard. Free shipping on many items ... $20.00 shipping. The box that arrived at my doorstep was surprisingly small and light. Kelty Cosmic Down 20 Marmot Helium Down Nemo Disco 15 Therm-a-Rest Questar 20; Average Weight: 2 lb. And hey, the good news is that it DOES work pretty much as advertised. Fill Weight: 30.5 oz. Keep up with the discounted gear review esp. I am on the lookout for a bag/quilt that is lighter, however. Water-resistant down insulation and an array of features make this sleeping bag a great combination of value … Lo and behold I was at TJ Maxx this last saturday and picked up the Cosmic 20 for $50! It’s a much better sleeping bag than I imagined. I’ve never found the need to do that, but they’re there if you’re so inclined. The zipper is sturdy, but not as smooth and it caught on one of the tie-down straps a couple of times. Now, thanks to a slew of upgrades, you can get your hands on a legit UNICORN—with “pony pricing” still in play. Something for everyone: Basic, Premium, and Unlimited Membership options available. Big Agnes Zirkel SL 20-Degree sleeping bag has a down filling which is water repellant and will keep you very warm and cozy. Home › Forums › Kelty Cosmic Down 20 Sleeping Bag Review. “Huh,” I thought. $169.95 $127.46 Excl. / 0.461 kgStuffed size: 7 x 15.5 in / 18 x 39.5 cm, LongTemp Rating: 20° / -7°CEN Comfort Limit: 19° F / -7° CFits to: 6 ft 6 in / 198 cmTotal weight: 2 lb 10.7 oz / 0.461 kgFill weight: 20.88 oz. Price $170 at Amazon. My husband and I recently tested the 9-foot Kelty Noah’s Tarp (which is also available in 12-, 16-, and 20-foot options). The Meow costs more, weighs a quarter pound more and based on my experience with the one that's been hanging in my closet after one use a couple of years ago, it's a true 30 degree bag. But thanks to refinements like our NEW soft-as-silk nylon taffeta fabric and a handy stash pocket for your headlamp/chapstick/actual stash, you’ll be daydreaming about more QT in the outdoors. ISO Temp Rating (Comfort): 32° / 0°C; ISO Temp Rating (Limit): 22° / -6°C; Fits to: 6’ 6" / 198 cm; Length: 84” / 213 cm; Shoulder Width: 32" / 81 cm; Fill Weight: 33 oz / .95 kg; Total Weight: … We think this bag would be comfortable for ladies up t… One is the alpine 40, a strictly summer bag. Thank you for the review and specifically for using English and metric units. The material is pretty rugged, overkill in my opinion, but at least the down won't poke through like it can with polyester taffeta. Get our Handbook - the resource you need to make intelligent decisions about gear, safety, comfort, and pack weight. Whether your an … “That actually feels about right.” Out of the box and onto the scale: my size regular Cosmic Down 20 weighs 2 pounds 9.6 ounces, 1.6 ounces over spec, but hey, that’s still pretty good. The loft seems a bit uneven, particularly in the hood, which is where I had the most trouble. (Regular Size) Average Weight … To compare the loft of the bags, a useful calculation is to multiply the fill rating by the fill amount: WM = 850 cubic inches per ounce x 16 ounces = 13,600 cubic inches of down Receive new Members-only content, gain access to 2,000+ articles in the archives, and become a part of the most passionate community of backpacking experts in the world. 12 oz. building up my gear slowly, buying a couple items a year. First, it comes with a substantial stuff sack, and you could get rid of an ounce by using an ultralight sack. It's a little tight in the stomach/hip area, but some of my other bags have this same issue. Kelty upgraded their liner materials for a softer hand, and the bag feels lofty and cozy. “Huh,” I thought again. And the author was still cold even with a second and better bag over the top. … 6 oz. Weight … Is the Kelty Cosmic Down 20 a true bargain, or should backpackers on a budget save for a more expensive bag? Does the lumpy appearance belie the bag’s performance? The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a comfortable sleeping bag that provides reasonable warmth for most of the year-round … Maybe it looks a little lumpy? I got one of these to try out last summer for $90 from Target. The bag comes in two sizes: regular and long. Dick's without an proper caps is profanity here! Walking from my back door to the tent on a night in the high 30s I shivered a little, and thought to myself that I’d probably be headed back for the house halfway through the night. With a 600-fill-power, the Kelty Cosmic 20 won’t be the most insulated bag on the list. Maybe when I have loads of cash hanging around I'll buy something betterlighter but for the budget minded person this bag is ideal. Viewing 25 posts - 1 through 25 (of 26 total), Forums are supported by our merchant partners (. Offer cannot be sold or otherwise bartered. Thanks Brad for the reveiw. Guaranteed by Mon, Jul 20. It's fairly lightweight, serviceable, and the drawbacks are not that serious, especially if you are prepared for them and plan accordingly, (like making sure to use a balaclava and a base top zipped up all the way to compensate for the hood). Disclosure: The manufacturer provided this product to the author and/or Backpacking Light at no charge, and it is owned by the author/BPL. There are definitely some thinner spots in loft, particularly on the bottom of the bag, but overall I’m pretty pleased. EDIT to include that we were both on mats/pads that provided a sufficient R value. In this overview of the Cosmic Down 20, you can clearly see the over-stuffed nature of some baffles… and the average to under-filled look of a few other baffles. 0 … My previous experiences with the bag had all been during warm days, with highs perhaps in the forties and bottoming out in the twenties in the middle of the night. At first I dismissed it as a fluke, perhaps a hydration problem I wasn’t aware of, maybe a slight cold, or a light dinner… but all factors struck me as being completely normal. The draft collar was just plain weird, and didn't really function very well, so I experienced drafts around my neck, which was remedied when I switched from a hat to a balaclava. That night only dropped to about 15 F / -9 C, but I woke up perhaps five hours into the night, feeling particularly cold. ShortTemp Rating: 20° / -7°CEN Comfort Limit: 19° F / -7° CFits to: 5 ft 6 in / 167 cmTotal weight: 2 lb 3.9 oz / 1.019 kgFill weight: 16.26 oz. Note the hood and shoulder region “tummy tuck” on the CD 20; I wish there were more down in this region. “Nah, it won’t loft for beans.”. A piece of gear doesn't have to be the best in any one area to be great. Most partial zips don’t go down far enough to be useful for venting, but this one hits me just below the knee. A hundred bucks for a down bag?! Regular sleeping bags make me feel like I'm being held hostage. So a Kelty Cosmic Down 20* F bag costs $80 and the cheapest I can find a Light Year 20*F is around $160. We desperately needed to lighten our 67lb. Does the bag do what it’s supposed to do? wish I could find one of those. Unless otherwise specified, product prices already reflect discounts. It compares to the much more expensive marmot sawtooth. This sleeping bag by Kelty Cosmic is designed to keep you warm and dry in temperatures down to 20 degrees F. 500 fill DriDown and full draft tube collar ensure heat will remain sealed in tight. I bought a $100 down bag made by Marmot that is made specifically for Dick's Sporting Goods. 18.2 ounces (516 grams) of that weight is the down filling. All offers are limited to stock on hand; no backorders or rainchecks are available. the higher cost items. Find out what gear our guides recommend if you want lightweight gear that is durable and versatile. Just got this on sale from Campmor a few days ago, and thought I would share my experience with it. Void where prohibited, taxed or otherwise restricted. Anyone on a limited budget who’s in the market for a good all ‘round sleeping bag. I guess you could say I went into this evaluation with high hopes and low expectations. It's nice to see another good bargain article. I was back and forth for about a month on to get this bag or the Kelty lightyear XP 20. Given that the two bags compared have a difference of 3" in shoulder girth, and have different-weight shells, the actual "loft ratio," if we were to call it that, would be more in favor of the Western bag. From campgrounds by the lake to weekend backpacking treks in the mountains, you've got three-season performance to … 1 oz. Buy One Get One offers apply a portion of discount amount to each of the items.
Ive had two with different insulations after reading the reveiws in backpacker years back they were initially fairly warm but lost loft and warmth fast although as I mentioned in another thread maybe if I had been gentler stuffing they might have lasted longer. Just ordered one. There is nothing outwardly impressive about this bag in appearance, but it works. Excellent review, thank you. If I were headed on a trip and expected a narrow range of temperature variation, hovering around 20 F / -7 C, the Cosmic Down 20 isn’t the bag I would take. You can also get a slightly different perspective on loft here. 8 oz. (Regular Size) 2 lbs. ie not live plucked? Temperature Rating; 20°F. My wife got me the XP because I told her I wanted that one, then changed my mind, but she had already ordered it. BACKPACKING LIGHT® and the FEATHER/MOUNTAIN icon are registered trademarks granted for exclusive use to Beartooth Media Group, Inc. 6.6 oz. Thanks for your responses! You can also earn the same credit any time you invite a friend and they make their first purchase). “This thing might actually be legitimate.” I shook my head. Cosmic 20 Synthetic Kelty Cosmic 0 Synthetic Kelty Tuck 20 Kelty Mistral 0 Kelty Mistral 20 Temperature Rating (F): 20 0 20 0 20 Insulation: Cirroloft Synthetic Cirroloft Synthetic Thermapro Synthetic Cloudloft … Its fill weight ranges from 18.2 to 33.3 ounces depending on the style purchased. That's $30 less than what campmor wanted. The hood is a bit large, and it took quite some futzing to get it cinched down appropriately, with the draw cord system causing a bit of frustration. But the Cosmic Down 20 lofts well enough, even better than many. Good article. I’m accustomed to sleeping bags more in the price range of $400, and while the idea of saving $300 was awesome, I didn’t really think the Cosmic Down 20 would keep me warm. It's not a bad bag for the money. Instead I woke up warm, cozy, and smiling somewhat late the next morning. It fit our 5'5" tester well, and she had enough room to put on additional layers without it feeling too restrictive. The bag I have (and yes it is the blue one) doesn't seem to loft as well as the one pictured in this article, but it was still fairly warm. I'll second this review. Thanks so much for pointing this bag out, I'm just getting into backpacking and this thing is literally a steal for $80! For such a cheap bag, could the shell material really be light enough to offset the extra weight of 550 fill? While I … The one I got was the alpine adventurer 15. Fill: 600-fill down. We were quite warm (I was too warm) with base layers, fleece top and balaclava, a hand warmer in the foot box for good measure. Note that when I say “bargain,” I don’t mean cheap… I mean a good value. There are two large loops sewn onto the footbox for hanging, and a number of small loops along the sides so you could secure a pad underneath the bag. (Regular Size) 2 lbs. Despite temps bottoming out in the low twenties, I slept warm and cozy for that weekend and the next. Trips with days in the 40s or 50s F and nights in the 20s or 30s F would be fine with the Cosmic Down 20, and frankly those are conditions most backpackers are more likely to encounter. ... Kelty Cosmic – Women’s +20 Degree Bag Review By Matt K. • Camp. I picked up one of these (they were called the Kelty Lite Trekker 20* then) last summer for about $80 at Target and have used it on several trips with nights as cold as 17 (I did bring a fleece liner for that night though). It doesn't compress as well as some of my other bags, and I chalk this up to the substantial material used. How could it? The skeptic in my head immediately said “Yeah, it’ll weigh five pounds and be good for 60 F (16 C).” But the sleeping bag only weighs two and a half pounds, and it’s been EN tested for 20 F / -7 C. Well, that clinched my curiosity. I think, though, that I'll continue to save up for a Montbell spiral down sleeping bag – I thrash around a lot when I sleep and I find regular (i.e., non-stretchy) bags to be too confining and claustrophobic. On its own for me it is not warm enough for winter but too warm for most summer nights (at low altitude) so it's more of a shoulder season and Sierra Nevada bag. With the Cosmic, Kelty … Fill weight: 18.2 oz. Wow….a $100 Marmot bag? That night wasn’t significantly colder than several others, when I had been warm using the same pad and clothing combo. Finally can retire my old NF bag for Kelty = 550 cubic inches per ounce x 20 ounces = 11,000 cubic inches of down. If someone’s new to backpacking and trying to put together their whole kit, this sleeping bag is a good bargain. Is the blue one featured here the older version of the bag? The skeptic in my head immediately said “Yeah, it’ll weigh five pounds and be good for 60 F (16 C).” But the sleeping bag only weighs two and a half pounds, and it’s been EN tested for 20 F / -7 C. Well, that clinched my curiosity. All that said, my goal was to emphasize real-world, practical findings… more so "Does it work as advertised" than "What do the specs say," ya know? i dont know why i wouldnt just pick up a cats meow for $120-$140 or so, its roughly a similar weight … and its synthetic to boot …, glad to see BPL looking at value though …, "i dont know why i wouldnt just pick up a cats meow for $120-$140 or so". It easily fits in his pack, is almost two pounds lighter than his synthetic bag, came in a Scout green color(ho ho) and he loves it. The real question, then, “Should everyone buy this bag?”. Throw it in your pack and you have an extra layer when you need it. I am exactly the guy you are talking about: Just getting into hiking, camping, kayaking, etc. Rated at 15 and weighs 2 lb 8 oz. College students or Scouts might want to take a look at the Cosmic Down 20. It was clear that all variables were unchanged except for the daytime/nighttime temperature swing. If you’re counting ounces, you could save three-quarters of a pound by going to an 850-fill bag. The three-quarter-length zipper has proven to be a true three-quarter-length zipper… it seems like many companies’ “three-quarter zips” are closer to half zips to me. Huh! So why was the bag cold on one night? by Brad Groves on March 22, 2011 Performance Gear Reviews. The point, of course, is that to determine if a manufacturer's rating is accurate, it wouldn't be appropriate to use a lower R-value pad than they use for testing. Note the passive top collar and draft collar of the Cosmic Down 20. Our Verdict. Other restrictions may apply. I tend to sleep warm, and I was just slightly chilled at 30 degrees with mid weight base layers, and a balaclava. Our Cosmic Sleeping Bag was already giving you a workhorse for the price of a pony. I had imagined wrestling a behemoth into a stuff sack, but it easily stuffed into a 10 liter dry sack. tax. The Kelty cosmic down 20 is regarded as one of the best 3 season sleeping bags around and for a very affordable price compared to other models, no wonder people are raving about it. It’s spare but also extremely light weight. Temperature rating: 20°F Weight: 2 lbs. However, if I were looking for a decent three-season bag and typical temperature swing, this bag could be a good choice. Now if we could just find a $150, sub 3-pound, double wall tent ;). Because on previous nights when it was cold and the bag sufficed, the ground had been a lot warmer to start with, from the warm daytimes. A few comments about the discussion… Field testing a sleeping bag for relative/comparable warmth is an inherently subjective undertaking, so I eliminated as many variables as possible. Although I was game to experiment and had gained healthy respect for the Cosmic Down 20, I took along a 0 F / -18 C bag as a backup. I haven't handled the bag up close, but at this price it's very tempting, even if not your primary bag. A hundred bucks for a down bag?! Lol. Things sure go fast in the Gear Swap! If I had used a lower-rated pad, I wouldn't have had a good comparative baseline. I'm pretty picky about sleeping bags, and I actually found this to be comparable to some $250 bags that I've owned. If you aren't already a member, you can sign up with this link https://www.theclymb.com/invite-from/mountainwalker (I get a $10 credit to apply to gear when a friend I've invited makes a purchase, at no cost to you. Although I normally roll over with the bag (kind of wearing it as I roll over to sleep on my side), I found myself turning inside the Cosmic Down 20 to keep the bottom surface down. However, if you’re shopping on a budget, the Kelty Cosmic 20 … For its weight, the Kelty Cosmic 20 is surprisingly light at just 2 pounds 6.6 ounces (1.093 kilos) for the regular version. The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a 3-season sleeping bag with DriDown™ to defend against moisture and dry quickly when wet. Limit one discount code per order. Discount codes are not valid on prior purchases, cannot be used after their expiration dates, and do not apply to taxes, shipping and processing charges. The zipper draft tube is surprisingly well filled, and the zipper runs freely. Hope it becomes a trend. Consumer must pay applicable sales tax. I put in a few summer trips with it and a fall trip which was still rather comfortable – in the 30s. most trips. The draft tube is not circumferential, nor can you cinch it down, but the passive top collar does help keep the bag warmer. I’ve found that using pads with barely adequate insulation can dramatically decrease the performance of a bag, therefore I used pads with R-values ranging from 5 to 8 (yeah, I know the 8 is high, but I have the pad, it’s comfy, and I love it) for all my field evaluations. I had essentially been coasting through the previous lows on the borrowed heat of the day. The Kelty Cosmic Down 20 is considered the classic entry level down backpacking sleeping bag. It does not have the distinctly reassuring appearance of, say, Western Mountaineering bags and their slightly overstuffed baffles. Not yet rated. Offers only apply to the United States unless otherwise noted. I’m not gonna lie: It isn’t a sexy bag. An additional layer would help. Our most popular bag, the Cosmic is still a three-season superstar with cozy, quick-drying 600 fill DriDown™. 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